My suspicions of repressed homosexuality have not been dissuaded by the line "I will do you in a heartbeat". Nor by your invitation to dance.

I see you found cruel! C'mon over. If nothing else, you'll find yourself in wonderful second amendment company. We may also call your mother.

Before you drive out to my neck of the woods with your anti-tank rockets and beowulf .50 caliber entry rifle, answer me this: If you're willing to murder thousands, if not millions, of civilians in order to ensure that our values remain unchallenged- how exactly are you different from your average Al-queda member?

C'mon over to cruel.

Hey raoul, for the sake of conversation...what say you about values? Would you cut and run? Why? Are you scared? Do you really believe a compromise with Islam will work? Do you believe the United Nations can solve these problems? Do you believe the Jews have a right to manage their destiny? Do you believe this war knows no borders? Do you believe that Islam wants to have a tea party with the west? What is your answer?

If your neighbor was surrounded by his wife and children, and he was shooting at you and your family...what would you do? Would you let him kill your family, or would you kill him?

what say you about values?

That Islam's can be pretty fucked, but so can any other religion's. It's up to the people to determine when they're ready to be free of superstition and asinine tradition.

Would you cut and run? Why? Are you scared?

From Iraq? No. I'm the bizarro Kerry. I was against it, and now I'm for it. You break it, you bought it.

Do you really believe a compromise with Islam will work?

Do you really think lumping one-third of the planet together under one stereotype is using good judgment, or ignorance disguised as jingoism? We can compromise with many different nations in the Islamic world. They don't all want even close to the same thing.

Do you believe the United Nations can solve these problems?

The United Nations is weak structurally, because it's a Confederation. It can only solve the problems it's members have the will and resolve to solve. So, no.

Do you believe the Jews have a right to manage their destiny?

Israel was a bad idea from the get go, but you can't un-make it. Escalation, on their part, has always been met by more force. Their aggression will be their downfall. Destiny? That's a little much.

Do you believe this war knows no borders?

Name one war fought by two states from entirely within their own borders, and I'll buy you a donut. Next.

Do you believe that Islam wants to have a tea party with the west? What is your answer?

Islam is a conception. The "Islamic people" or "Islamic nation" is a slogan. Plenty of terrorists from Egypt to the Philippines, but you're only going to create more if you forget who you're fighting. There are plenty more civilians,
in every state associated with Islam, than there are Jihadists.

I have one for you: Why are there Islamic terrorists?

Raoul, he'd never be a suicide bomber in the Middle East. He wants to do your ass, apparently, and his kind don't get as much love and acceptance in those parts. Embarrassingly enough, it would also apparently only take a heartbeat.

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You should consider posting on cruel.com. Don't be turned off by the pratter of a few of the leftist cockfags. There are some very intelligent, educated and well spoken regular posters who share your views on what needs to be done in the face of threats against America. You will find yourself in like company. Well at least for your views.

Yabu izza Fhag! LOL!L!L!L!!

Christ, Yabu ... wherever did you find these Mensa candidates?

This one's the best: "...Israel was a bad idea from the get go..."

Surely he hasn't considered the alternative.

Yes, I've met these people before. They want to criticize other views and all of that...but I surely did not hear an alternative or better solution from ol' Raoul there, now did we? Nope. Their solution is to just pull the troops out..bury their heads in the sand and pretend that the rest of the world doesn't exist...or that we should focus our energy on taking care of just our own country.

I, personally, might be a little more tolerant but for the fact that if we were not fighting 'over there', then we would be fighting right here in our backyard. So, how do you think our government is going to be able to shell out millions of dollars in welfare and possibly hope to solve that problem when we will wind up fighting in our own streets. That's what will happen.

And, I have no time for those that think Israel should not exist. To them...FUCK YOU!

(Sorry Yabu..for taking up this bandwidth, but that dude pissed me OFF.)

Raoul - Don't fuck with Yabu! I've seen some of his toys.

I've said this before and I'll say it again: We did not start this war. The Moo-slime goat boinkers declared war on us! Since they love death so much, I'm ready and willing to help them out. I would have no qualms about nuking Mecca.

Yabu - I forgot to compliment you on picking up an excellent troll!

I would have no qualms about nuking Mecca.

I agree. We’re fighting an enemy who sees us as less than human, worthy only of death. We should kill them and destroy their countries, so they never bother us again. Just a quick question- are you typing this from your living room, or a cave in Afghanistan?

The willing annihilation of thousands of innocent people fueled by intense hate is the “value� we’re supposed to be fighting for. You are disgusting, and worthy of the same treatment as any terrorist we catch. If you had been raised on the Koran, in some Mosque-laden town, you’d be shouting “Allah Akbar!� and burning American flags. You’re the same goddamn type.

Surely he hasn't considered the alternative.

Like giving them a homeland somewhere that wasn't populated by millions of people ordained by their religion to hate them? It's too late to argue whether or not the selection of Palestine was a good idea. I think we can all agree that it turned out pretty poorly. Thanks, England!

Their solution is to just pull the troops out..

Did you even read my last post, or is it easier to feel righteous if you assign opinions to those you disagree with? Minus one point for using the phrase “cut and run�.

There have been plenty of alternatives offered. Making three countries out of Iraq, instead of one. Regional, instead of Western, involvement plans have been offered by Joe Biden. More troops. A draft. Offering stakes in reconstruction for help with security, to countries like Russia, China and France. ( A little late now, but it might have worked two years ago.)

So, how do you think our government is going to be able to shell out millions of dollars in welfare and possibly hope to solve that problem when we will wind up fighting in our own streets

This makes no sense. Welfare? Millions? I'll try to address this as if it were written in English. If we hadn't spent 50 Billion dollars a month in Iraq for three years, we could have turned this country into a fortress. Those 170,000 troops could have sealed off our Mexican border. We'd have billions to spend on intelligence, so we could go after the terrorists in their caves instead of baiting them into Iraq. Anyone seen Osama lately?

Violent Islamic extremists say their cause is justified because Americans are selfish, racist pigs who have committed themselves to a war on Islam. They said this before 9-11, before the Cole, and before Jimmy Carter. Dick-swinging jingoists, like the kind I’m finding here, are the whole reason we’ve got Arabs trying to kill us. Excuse me if I don’t lock step with your ilk; but your kind is responsible for this whole war. Troll? I don’t need to troll here. The truth seems to get you guys going well enough on it’s own.

Quick correction: Replace the words "fighting for" with "fighting against" in my last post. It will make more sense.

Raoul - I'm typing it from my library in an upscale suburban community. I am a snotty rich fuck after all. Gosh, maybe I'm one of the reasons the Moo-slimes hate us so much.

If it were an upscale community, I wouldn't be in a library.

I'm probably younger than you, but not too young to have kids. I pay my own way.

But consider my positions. Move Israel towards peace, instead of supporting actions they took in Lebanon. Leave the Arabic and Persian States alone, provided they don't dick with us. (The Taliban was fucked.) Stop paying the Saudis billions to act like seventeenth country European kings. Get our troops out as quickly as possible- from not just Iraq, but Saudi Arabia too.

Stop playing around with revolutionary movements. We funded the mujahadeen in Afghanistan, the Shas in Iran, Hussein... hell, we sold Hussein Anthrax.

We finish Iraq, finish Afghanistan, get out, and stay out. The only time Mohammed Al-Whoever hears about an American is when they put up an oil rig down the way.

Now why would your average Moo-Slime give two camel shits about America? Where's the motivation to slip on a dynamite vest- they've got lives to run, food to buy, and daughters to find husbands for.

Yeah, it's me pissing the Arabs off.

raoul - The library is in my house. All us snotty rich fucks have big houses and we can have libraries and music rooms and everything.

Ah, the simplistic solutions of youth. Dude, we could leave the Middle East tomorrow and it wouldn't matter to the Islamic nutjobs. We could allow Israel to be wiped off the map and it wouldn't matter to the Islamic nutjobs. They hate us and they hate our way of life. They want the world under Islam and Sharia law. Haven't you been paying attention? They tell us that over and over and over again. We are the Great Satan.

Move Israel towards peace. Do you think Israel doesn't want peace? Sharon gave Arafat the best deal the Paleo-stinians are ever gonna get. Arafat walked away from it and started the 2nd Intifada. The Paleo-stinians do not want peace. They want the destruction of Israel.

What you fail to realize is that Islam is a nihilistic death cult. They celebrate death and I'm more than willing to help them in that celebration.

Tell me how we are gonna quit paying the Saudis billions. Are you for drilling in ANWR? Are you for drilling off the Gulf Coast? Are we gonna shit oil? Just askin'.

"If we hadn't spent 50 Billion dollars a month in Iraq for three years, we could have turned this country into a fortress. Those 170,000 troops could have sealed off our Mexican border. We'd have billions to spend on intelligence, so we could go after the terrorists in their caves instead of baiting them into Iraq. Anyone seen Osama lately?"

Bullshit. Ok, maybe we could have..but every democratic president says that..that's how they run their platform but I surely haven't seen any of that money put to those uses by a democratic president or administration. There is still just as much poverty and then some as there is in a republican government. Only difference being that the troops don't have to worry about getting paid under republican leadership, not so historically with democratic ones.

So, for all the rhetoric, show me the proof of what has actually been accomplished by these people for the people they say they are going to accomplish it by. I tell ya, if we get a democratic president...I want to see and end to all poverty in this country, I want everybody to be able to live like Denny, a snotty rich fuck, like is promised.

And, no those troops could NOT have been used to secure our border. You represent the faction of this country that is scared that something like that will represent military rule in this country, so therefore it is not allowed to be done that way except in cases of extreme emergency. And GOD FORBID we actually shoot someone trying to come over our border.

Of course, if we just pull on out of Iraq and don't finish this, that's how it's going to be in this country anyway...a big ol military country. See, I am totally convinced you people have no fucking clue what you are asking for. Have you ever tried to plan the logistics of what you are suggesting?

"Leave the Arabic and Persian States alone, provided they don't dick with us. "

That's nice. So, it's ok to fight back when they come fuck with us? When they come to our shores and we're fighting on OUR land, that will be ok? It'll be ok to shoot them back when they oh, say take out the world trade center??? Jesus. And you forgot one. The Stark. Remember the Stark? Well, I do.

And, see, you would have more credibility if it wasn't your first instinct to fall into name calling mode and start insinuating things about sexual preference. Who started that?

Raoul,

Fuck you, sir. Fuck you and your apologist equivalizing.

And if you don't like it, why don'tcha come on down to Galveston and try it on.

You can be the guinea pig for what Achmed is in for on these shores.

I'm just sayin', y'know.

Jim
Sloop New Dawn
Galveston, TX